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Sons of the Pioneers will celebrate their 80th year in 2014

17 Saturday Aug 2013

Posted by jerrysprague in B-Western trivia

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Bob Nolan, Roy Rogers, Sons of the Pioneers, Tim Spencer, Western Music

OK, how many rock, pop, country, rock ‘n roll groups can you name who have lasted 80 years? How about 70? How about 60, 50? OK, even 20?

I just goggled and found some rock bands still going after 30-40 years and a few for 52 years. Some of the bands listed had breaks in the chronology; that is, they stopped and reformed later. I don’t know this for a fact but I would venture the Sons of the Pioneers is the oldest band of any kind in America. The Flying W Wranglers of Colorado Springs is listed as the second oldest (60+ years) Western band. Now bear in mind, the original singers are no longer there but the Sons of the Pioneers has performed continuously for almost 80 years. There have been approximately 25 singers to perform in the band over the years.

The Sons of the Pioneers recorded continuously over the years. I counted about 47 albums produced from 1952 to 1987; most of the earlier albums were done from recording sessions by the Sons of the Pioneers but some of the later ones were compilations from earlier recordings. Many albums have been released during the past 20 years as different compilations of their older music. I know only of three albums recorded by the present Sons of the Pioneers during the past 15 years. In 1999 they put out an album entitled “Our Best to You”. Then in 2009, they produced an album for their 75th year celebration. Now I see (and hope to buy soon) on their website (sonsofthepioneers.org) they have another one out called Melody Mesa. I am amazed how close their sound is to the original Sons of the Pioneers’; the only thing missing is the baritone voices of Bob Nolan and Tommy Doss. Those voices would probably be hard to duplicate.

As a boy, I collected Sons of the Pioneers’ albums (33 1/3 LPM). This was in the 60’s when Western music had all but died out. I lived in High Point, NC and believe me, it was hard to find any Sons of the Pioneers’ albums in that town. The first one I discovered was Room Full of Roses, which was more love songs than cowboy; but it was Sons of the Pioneers. My second one I found was 25 Favorite Cowboy Songs. Most people buy albums for a particular song but I bought albums just because they were by the Sons of the Pioneers. I amassed a collection of about 20 by 1970 when I graduated from college. In the 1990’s I started collecting again (CDs) due to the internet and the many companies that started producing compilations of the Sons of the Pioneers’ music. So, I have bought a number of them on Amazon and EBay. My ITunes on my computer has some 2500 songs, mostly Western and a majority of them by Sons of the Pioneers; I go to sleep by their music every night.

As an individual, I can honestly say the Sons of the Pioneers has had a big impact on my life. But what amazes me is the impact that the old cowboy band had on music overall. Roy Rogers, Bob Nolan and Tim Spencer (the founders) would spend 8-10 hours every day practicing their music. They were the first cowboy group to bring harmony to such levels of perfection. They were the first group to do yodeling in three parts. Though cowboy music was not in vogue in the 60’s and 70’s, their harmony talent did not go unnoticed by other musicians.

Hal Spencer, son of Tim Spencer, said in an interview (circa 2002) about the Sons of the Pioneers:

“So many people have copied their harmonies. Here’s just a few, and all of these have been documented through interviews and books.

“Joan Baez used Sons of the Pioneer harmonies in her folk melodies. The Osmond Brothers and The Lennon Sisters both copied Sons of the Pioneers harmonies. The Gatlin Brothers is another that did. The Eagles formed their harmonies after those of the Sons of the Pioneers, and even had the Sons of the Pioneers open for them in the 1980s.

“That was something: these guys singing at rock shows.”

So, folks, these guys were not just some old shabby cowboy group but they were innovators and their influence was felt throughout the music industry. If you like their music, visit Amazon or EBay and goggle Sons of the Pioneers; you’ll find some real nuggets for a great price. And be sure to visit the Sons of  the Pioneers website where you can buy their two most recent CDs. Then, like me, you  can go to sleep every night to some really good music!

Happy Trails!

Jerry Sprague

The Wannabe Cowboy

August 14, 2013

 

 

GENE AUTRY vs ROY ROGERS: WHO IS YOUR FAVORITE?

25 Thursday Jul 2013

Posted by Guest in B-Western trivia, Cowboy Talk

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B-Westerns, cowboy art, Gene Autry, Roy Rogers, Sons of the Pioneers

Guest POST by Jerry Sprague

All of us probably have our favorite cowboys from the old B-Western genre. Some of us grew up as Gene Autry fans and others as Roy Rogers fans; and others as Hopalong Cassidy, Lone Ranger, Durango Kid or fans of any of the many other silver screen cowboys. Over the years I have read a lot of newsletters and other media about B-Western stars and the one thing that always amazed me was not the strong feelings some people had about their heroes but the very negative feelings they had for whom they considered their hero’s competition. I remember reading something written by one lady who loved Gene Autry but thought Roy Rogers wasn’t worthy of hero status because he had not served in the military. But for me personally, I always viewed both Gene and Roy as my heroes. Why can’t I like them both equally, though they were very different individuals?

Art © 2013 Jim Sanders

Gene Autry: Art © 2013 Jim Sanders

My interest in the B-Western stars began when I was about 12. In the early 60’s our local TV station was showing reruns of Gene’s TV shows. I loved them and dreamed about being like Gene with my horse and guitar. A little later on, I grew in appreciation for Roy Rogers because of his Christian faith. I tried contacting Gene through letters at that time but never got a response; I think he was starting a baseball team at that time and his cowboy fans took a back seat. I did write Roy and got responses back through his fan club. Roy seemed to be more fan conscious than Gene but that fact did not cause me to pit them against each other. Instead, over the years I learned to appreciate each of them for who they were.

Gene Autry was about 4 years older than Roy and he was very business-oriented. He must have been a good athlete because he was offered a pro baseball job after high school. But it did not pay enough to live on so Gene got a job as a telegraph operator. But he did pursue a music career and excelled in that; he wrote or co-wrote many of his songs and recorded some 600 songs during his career.

Roy was also very athletic and considered a better horseman than Gene, though I

Art © 2013 by Jim Sanders

Roy & Trigger: Art © 2013 by Jim Sanders

don’t think Gene had anything to be ashamed of. Roy loved music also but probably wasn’t quite the musician Gene was; Roy wrote very few songs (one time researched this and could only come up with about 7 songs) but recorded many. He actually had a couple in the top 40 of country music sometime in the 70s. I’ve heard “professional” actors criticize Roy’s voice but I thought he sounded great. He was the prime mover in starting the Sons of the Pioneers; when he, Tim Spencer and Bob Nolan started they would practice 8- 10 hours a day at times to perfect their harmony. They definitely set the standard for Western singing groups. And guess what? Next year the Sons of the Pioneers celebrate their 80th anniversary!

It seems that Roy was not the business man that Gene was and was not a planner. Gene realized he would not always be popular as a cowboy so while in the service, he started making business investments in radio, TV and motels. He also got involved providing livestock for rodeos and was inducted into the PRCA Hall of Fame in Colorado Springs which I visited a few years ago. Roy did not amass much of a fortune, though, like Gene, he did a lot of merchandising with products he endorsed. Gene was meticulous about preserving his movies and most of them have been digitized in recent years and are shown on the Western Channel on cable. Many of Roy’s films were not protected or classified and very few, if any, have been digitized. Just watch the Western channel sometime and you’ll see many more Gene Autry movies than Roy Rogers. Gene’s museum is a class act museum located in LA which focuses on Western history and culture in general and still continues strongly today as a show case and a place where art and music events are held; Roy’s museum was more of a down home collection of Roy and Dale’s memorabilia. It was located way out in the desert town of Victorville and did well as long as he and Dale were there. After they passed on, the museum was relocated to Branson, Missouri but lasted only a few years.

Gene and Ina never had any children even though Gene seemed to really like kids and often visited hospitals and sang kid’s songs. Roy and Dale had a big family of about 9 (if I recall correctly), many of them adopted. Roy and Dale were very family oriented and involved their children in many of their professional activities.

After WWII broke out, Gene Autry was making about $600K per year and had been ranking number 2 and 3 among all movie stars and No. 1 among the cowboy actors. But Gene felt called to serve his country and wanted to fly planes. (And how many actors today have resigned, joined the military and rushed off to help out in Iraq and Afghanistan?) He paid for his own pilot lessons and then resigned from Republic Studio and joined the Army-Air Corps. He ended up flying cargo planes in the South Pacific during the war. On the other hand, Roy never served in the military and it seems he had a deferment due to his large family. However, Roy used his influence to support the war effort, though some people have criticized him for not serving. Gene’s leaving for the war led to Roy becoming the new “King of the Cowboys” while Gene was gone.

When Gene returned from the war, Republic hired him back and for a while Gene and Roy belonged to Republic. Republic had the two most popular cowboy movie stars. And of all things, Republic tried to promote them as competitors who did not like each other. But in Roy’s autobiography, he talks about his relationship with Gene. Both men had the utmost respect for each other and they understood what Republic was trying to do. Often Republic would supposedly quote either Gene or Roy saying something bad about the other. Depending on who was the supposed aggressor, Gene or Roy would pick up the phone and call the other to say it was not true which they probably already knew. Eventually, Gene left Republic to go with Columbia for a while but then eventually started his own company (Flying A Productions) to produce his TV productions of the Gene Autry Show, Annie Oakley, The Adventures of Champion, The Range Riders, and Buffalo Bill, Jr, all of which were aired in the 1950’s.

As far as accomplishments, Gene excelled in a few more areas than Roy did. Gene is the only person who has a star in all 5 categories on the Hollywood Walk of Fame: radio, recording, motion pictures, TV and live performances. Roy has three stars; radio, TV and motion pictures.

But Gene Autry and Roy Rogers were both human, though we wanted to make them infallible. For years I always thought Roy had two marriages; one to Arlene who died after Dusty was born and Dale Evans. Roy never mentioned in any of his writings that he had married at 18 to another teenager but it seems they really never lived together. Roy was traveling at the time with his singing group and she decided that she did not want to be married to an entertainer who was gone all the time. It seems the marriage lasted about a year. Why did Roy never mention it? Roy was always so conscious of being an example to children and other people so I think maybe he just did not want to display that one “black” mark of his past. This fact came out in a recent biography written about Roy; his family was not pleased with the publication of this book. That’s about the only “skeleton” in Roy’s closet that I know of except a little bit of drinking and carousing he did with the Pioneers before he became a Christian. But Gene seemed to have a few more serious problems. According to Gene in his autobiography, while in the military, days could get pretty boring so the soldiers sat around a lot playing cards and drinking. That’s when Gene started drinking. Then in the 50’s when the silver screen had played out Gene started touring a lot and he and his group would perform in one place, then drive all night to their next location to perform again. His performance schedule was incredibly hectic and I personally think that led to him having an alcohol problem. Johnny Western, one of Gene’s musicians on tour with him, described many of their touring travels in a recently published book and it was evident Gene was having a problem. Being a performer is a stressful job and many groups today deal with it by doing illegal drugs or prescription drugs like Richard Carpenter of Karen Carpenter fame. In Gene’s day the preferred drug was alcohol. It seems like Gene struggled with this problem through the late 50’s and 60’s but then got it under control for the later years of his long life. In his autobiography, he comments that he was aware that he was labeled an alcoholic but he did not know any alcoholics who became millionaires, implying that he had overcome it.

So, BOTH Gene and Roy were my “favorite” heroes. My heroes do not have to be perfect because, like me, they are human and fallible. But the good they did far outweighs any shortcomings they may have had. They were both what I consider “real” people; that is, the same on and off the screen. They both were men of integrity with high morals, love of their country, and love of their families and friends. How many celebrity heroes do we have today?

Please note that most of what I wrote I did from memory so I may have made some “mental” errors; but I can claim senior senility since I am 65. Feel free to correct me if I have made any obvious errors.

Jerry Sprague
The Wannabe Cowboy

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